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		<title>By: Bottle Opener</title>
		<link>http://www.smallbusinessbranding.com/525/savvy-marketing-or-sour-grapes/comment-page-1/#comment-233972</link>
		<dc:creator>Bottle Opener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi I am learning everything I can about marketing to women and so far it has been tricky but I agree with you 100% and stereotyping is one of the worst ways to market to anyone Men or Women, anyways I hope to learn alot here from you women ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I am learning everything I can about marketing to women and so far it has been tricky but I agree with you 100% and stereotyping is one of the worst ways to market to anyone Men or Women, anyways I hope to learn alot here from you women <img src='http://www.smallbusinessbranding.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wine Maker Edward Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wine Maker Edward Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Let&#039;s not put women in a box&quot; - Fantastic. Its aways successful if you don&#039;t try to concentrate on a particular type of customer. The better the quality of the product better the product being accepted by the user. I totally agree with your points made in this posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let&#8217;s not put women in a box&#8221; &#8211; Fantastic. Its aways successful if you don&#8217;t try to concentrate on a particular type of customer. The better the quality of the product better the product being accepted by the user. I totally agree with your points made in this posting.</p>
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		<title>By: kammiek</title>
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		<dc:creator>kammiek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 04:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad~

I LOVE your Funny Business...and I dig that you are taking time to read about how to market to women.

There are subtle nuances and thinking you get it, and getting it are two different things. 

It&#039;s a fine line, but those that get it succeed.

Thanks for adding to the convo,
Kammie K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad~</p>
<p>I LOVE your Funny Business&#8230;and I dig that you are taking time to read about how to market to women.</p>
<p>There are subtle nuances and thinking you get it, and getting it are two different things. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a fine line, but those that get it succeed.</p>
<p>Thanks for adding to the convo,<br />
Kammie K.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Shorr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Shorr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 20:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!  Marketing to women is tricky--especially for us men. I just read a great book, &quot;Marketing to Women&quot;, by Marti Barletta.  She covers the subject from A to Z: a real eye-opener.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!  Marketing to women is tricky&#8211;especially for us men. I just read a great book, &#8220;Marketing to Women&#8221;, by Marti Barletta.  She covers the subject from A to Z: a real eye-opener.</p>
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		<title>By: kammiek</title>
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		<dc:creator>kammiek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reese~

I&#039;m with you...I&#039;m not at Jimmy Choo&#039;s budget level (yet). And I love your ideas about more subtle ads. Let the visuals speak for themselves without have to go for the obvious. Perhaps this little rant of ours will inspire other ad/branding folks to stretch their visions and ideas...to dig a little deeper?

Kam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reese~</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you&#8230;I&#8217;m not at Jimmy Choo&#8217;s budget level (yet). And I love your ideas about more subtle ads. Let the visuals speak for themselves without have to go for the obvious. Perhaps this little rant of ours will inspire other ad/branding folks to stretch their visions and ideas&#8230;to dig a little deeper?</p>
<p>Kam</p>
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		<title>By: reese</title>
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		<dc:creator>reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. What if I don&#039;t wear the LBD but love wine? In general, I&#039;m not a fan of &quot;trend&quot; marketing..it feels dumbed down to me. 

As you and your other commenters noted, I do think there&#039;s ways to market to women that are more subtle. 

Instead of focusing on some women&#039;s specific materialism (by that I mean consumer behaviors specific to women, e.g. the buying of clothing versus behaviors more specific to men, such as the buying of gadgets) and slapping it in our faces with the assumption that we all fit into that buying category (I can&#039;t afford Jimmy Choo&#039;s--can you? What if they assumed we all can and developed something around that!?), a better campaign might have been to research the emotions and moods women have about wine (as you noted) and create a strategy around that. For example, many people (men and women alike) drink wine in the evening as a way to relax. An ad that empathizes with busy schedules and offers a specific wine to help one relax might have particular female appeal. Or, a visual ad with a group of 3 or 4 women smiling at the bar, with wine glasses, might pay homage to a &#039;girl&#039;s night out&#039; without SAYING that. Perhaps something like &quot;Brown-Forman&#039;s Chardonnay: A classic among friends&quot; (I&#039;m just going off the top of my head here). This would appeal more to a woman&#039;s emotions and relationship habits than the clothing she buys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. What if I don&#8217;t wear the LBD but love wine? In general, I&#8217;m not a fan of &#8220;trend&#8221; marketing..it feels dumbed down to me. </p>
<p>As you and your other commenters noted, I do think there&#8217;s ways to market to women that are more subtle. </p>
<p>Instead of focusing on some women&#8217;s specific materialism (by that I mean consumer behaviors specific to women, e.g. the buying of clothing versus behaviors more specific to men, such as the buying of gadgets) and slapping it in our faces with the assumption that we all fit into that buying category (I can&#8217;t afford Jimmy Choo&#8217;s&#8211;can you? What if they assumed we all can and developed something around that!?), a better campaign might have been to research the emotions and moods women have about wine (as you noted) and create a strategy around that. For example, many people (men and women alike) drink wine in the evening as a way to relax. An ad that empathizes with busy schedules and offers a specific wine to help one relax might have particular female appeal. Or, a visual ad with a group of 3 or 4 women smiling at the bar, with wine glasses, might pay homage to a &#8216;girl&#8217;s night out&#8217; without SAYING that. Perhaps something like &#8220;Brown-Forman&#8217;s Chardonnay: A classic among friends&#8221; (I&#8217;m just going off the top of my head here). This would appeal more to a woman&#8217;s emotions and relationship habits than the clothing she buys.</p>
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		<title>By: kammiek</title>
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		<dc:creator>kammiek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>~Natalie,

Yes...not-so-subtle marketing can leave us feeling out in the cold! 

~Tammy,

I agree, like I said in the article...it IS a fine line between reaching your target market and screaming for their attention. When I see this campain it&#039;s almost as if I can hear them shouting and waving, &quot;Ohh..Ohh Pick Me, Pick Me!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>~Natalie,</p>
<p>Yes&#8230;not-so-subtle marketing can leave us feeling out in the cold! </p>
<p>~Tammy,</p>
<p>I agree, like I said in the article&#8230;it IS a fine line between reaching your target market and screaming for their attention. When I see this campain it&#8217;s almost as if I can hear them shouting and waving, &#8220;Ohh..Ohh Pick Me, Pick Me!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kammie, I&#039;m with you on this one. I found a real turn-off in Brown-Forman&#039;s comment, &quot;Every woman has a little black dress, or three, or four.&quot;  It&#039;s the last four words that set my teeth on edge because they reek of stereotyping women as buyers of a lot of clothes. I think there&#039;s a difference between marketing to a target audience and marketing to a stereotype, and B-F appears teetering on the edge of the latter. Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kammie, I&#8217;m with you on this one. I found a real turn-off in Brown-Forman&#8217;s comment, &#8220;Every woman has a little black dress, or three, or four.&#8221;  It&#8217;s the last four words that set my teeth on edge because they reek of stereotyping women as buyers of a lot of clothes. I think there&#8217;s a difference between marketing to a target audience and marketing to a stereotype, and B-F appears teetering on the edge of the latter. Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here here! There is something to be said for subtelty... I&#039;m with you, give us a good reason to drink your wine, don&#039;t just clump us all into a dress wearing group and then tell us that you have developed a campaign to suit our needs. Instant turn off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here here! There is something to be said for subtelty&#8230; I&#8217;m with you, give us a good reason to drink your wine, don&#8217;t just clump us all into a dress wearing group and then tell us that you have developed a campaign to suit our needs. Instant turn off!</p>
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