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		<title>By: Silverthorne real estate</title>
		<link>http://www.smallbusinessbranding.com/913/why-you-should-up-marketing-in-a-down-market/comment-page-1/#comment-263256</link>
		<dc:creator>Silverthorne real estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya of course as you told When the economy shrinks it tends to shrink as a whole, meaning that people are still buying there are just less of them; the pie has shrunk. If you currently own say, 3% of your market and if the total market is $300m then your sales are $9m is absolutely true..... That&#039;s why the market is up and we are down in market....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya of course as you told When the economy shrinks it tends to shrink as a whole, meaning that people are still buying there are just less of them; the pie has shrunk. If you currently own say, 3% of your market and if the total market is $300m then your sales are $9m is absolutely true&#8230;.. That&#8217;s why the market is up and we are down in market&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: FSBO</title>
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		<dc:creator>FSBO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that budget should always be inspect for efficacy.... i like your present the question if you consider the marketing as an investment....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that budget should always be inspect for efficacy&#8230;. i like your present the question if you consider the marketing as an investment&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: FRANK IRIAS</title>
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		<dc:creator>FRANK IRIAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are dead on. 

You have to be the first person who calls marketing an investment. Meredith suggest that your premises is correct, but unrealistic for small business... I think she means that perhaps you could have spelled out specifics — personally I think you meant much of what she detail out.

The reality is that small businesses to often think of marketing as an after thought, when in fact it is the first thing. If they INVEST in high return marketing, then their efforts would be seen as a necessity, not an expense.

I have a design and marketing firm. We work with small and large businesses as well as not-for-profits. For us this economy is business as usual, we&#039;ve always guided our clients to think long-term, but invest short-term. Businesses need to cut the fat and leave only the muscle in their marketing efforts… As they always should have anyway. Frank Irias, www.DaishoCreative.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are dead on. </p>
<p>You have to be the first person who calls marketing an investment. Meredith suggest that your premises is correct, but unrealistic for small business&#8230; I think she means that perhaps you could have spelled out specifics — personally I think you meant much of what she detail out.</p>
<p>The reality is that small businesses to often think of marketing as an after thought, when in fact it is the first thing. If they INVEST in high return marketing, then their efforts would be seen as a necessity, not an expense.</p>
<p>I have a design and marketing firm. We work with small and large businesses as well as not-for-profits. For us this economy is business as usual, we&#8217;ve always guided our clients to think long-term, but invest short-term. Businesses need to cut the fat and leave only the muscle in their marketing efforts… As they always should have anyway. Frank Irias, <a href="http://www.DaishoCreative.com">http://www.DaishoCreative.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tenant Screening</title>
		<link>http://www.smallbusinessbranding.com/913/why-you-should-up-marketing-in-a-down-market/comment-page-1/#comment-241646</link>
		<dc:creator>Tenant Screening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t disagree with your premise but if you’re really talking about small business, spending more to not see an increase in sales may not be a viable option. For example, if a company is used to spending $10 per sale and suddenly you want them to spend $20 per sale that could wind up putting them under before they have the chance to realize the benefits of their increased market share in a recovered economy. If a company can afford to increase their CPA, great. If not, a look towards more creative lower cost marketing efforts (PR, cross-promotions and co-branding, social media) makes more sense than doing what they’re used to doing only spending more to get results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t disagree with your premise but if you’re really talking about small business, spending more to not see an increase in sales may not be a viable option. For example, if a company is used to spending $10 per sale and suddenly you want them to spend $20 per sale that could wind up putting them under before they have the chance to realize the benefits of their increased market share in a recovered economy. If a company can afford to increase their CPA, great. If not, a look towards more creative lower cost marketing efforts (PR, cross-promotions and co-branding, social media) makes more sense than doing what they’re used to doing only spending more to get results.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Paro</title>
		<link>http://www.smallbusinessbranding.com/913/why-you-should-up-marketing-in-a-down-market/comment-page-1/#comment-188372</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Paro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 06:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haitham: Same point as above.  I was only introducing a mindset.  Even though you are correct most small business owners don&#039;t measure in market share (that was for illustration purposes only), market share usually can&#039;t be measured without a sales figure.  Even leads don&#039;t give an ROI until convert to sales. 

I think we were both making the same point about market share (i assumed worst case scenario-it remained the same).  There wasn&#039;t meant to be any reference of direct proportions.  Again the point was that the companies that figure out away to gain market share, by having courage to market harder, smarter, more efficient- however they can- in a declining market, will benefit tremendously.  I could go into case examples about coca cola, budweiser....that we&#039;ll save that for a later date.  Thanks for the comment!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haitham: Same point as above.  I was only introducing a mindset.  Even though you are correct most small business owners don&#8217;t measure in market share (that was for illustration purposes only), market share usually can&#8217;t be measured without a sales figure.  Even leads don&#8217;t give an ROI until convert to sales. </p>
<p>I think we were both making the same point about market share (i assumed worst case scenario-it remained the same).  There wasn&#8217;t meant to be any reference of direct proportions.  Again the point was that the companies that figure out away to gain market share, by having courage to market harder, smarter, more efficient- however they can- in a declining market, will benefit tremendously.  I could go into case examples about coca cola, budweiser&#8230;.that we&#8217;ll save that for a later date.  Thanks for the comment!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Paro</title>
		<link>http://www.smallbusinessbranding.com/913/why-you-should-up-marketing-in-a-down-market/comment-page-1/#comment-188370</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Paro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 06:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meredith:  The point I was trying to make is that the marketing budget should be the last expense to be cut.  I agree that budget should always be scrutinized for efficacy.  What I see most owners do is &quot;cut back&quot; their marketing budgets.  Perhaps I should have pointed out that they would also need to allocate savings from reductions from another part of the business to account for the increased marketing spend.  I just want them understand the why.  Thanks for  the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meredith:  The point I was trying to make is that the marketing budget should be the last expense to be cut.  I agree that budget should always be scrutinized for efficacy.  What I see most owners do is &#8220;cut back&#8221; their marketing budgets.  Perhaps I should have pointed out that they would also need to allocate savings from reductions from another part of the business to account for the increased marketing spend.  I just want them understand the why.  Thanks for  the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Haitham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haitham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with the concept, good article, well written.. But  I think it shouldn&#039;t be addressed to small businesses. In the small business environment marketing ROI is not measured in market share units, it is usually measured in terms of sales, enquiries or leads, unlike big business who take market share, brand awareness,etc.. into consideration.

I also disagree with the assumption that the market share remains constant with the increase of the size of market, this is only true if the number of suppliers remains the same and their relative marketing activities also remains the same, which doesn&#039;t actually happen because as the market goes up more suppliers appear and the marketing spend of the other &quot;waiting&quot; suppliers also goes up again, which changes the distribution of the market share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with the concept, good article, well written.. But  I think it shouldn&#8217;t be addressed to small businesses. In the small business environment marketing ROI is not measured in market share units, it is usually measured in terms of sales, enquiries or leads, unlike big business who take market share, brand awareness,etc.. into consideration.</p>
<p>I also disagree with the assumption that the market share remains constant with the increase of the size of market, this is only true if the number of suppliers remains the same and their relative marketing activities also remains the same, which doesn&#8217;t actually happen because as the market goes up more suppliers appear and the marketing spend of the other &#8220;waiting&#8221; suppliers also goes up again, which changes the distribution of the market share.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t disagree with your premise but if you&#039;re really talking about small business, spending more to not see an increase in sales may not be a viable option. For example, if a company is used to spending $10 per sale and suddenly you want them to spend $20 per sale that could wind up putting them under before they have the chance to realize the benefits of their increased market share in a recovered economy. If a company can afford to increase their CPA, great. If not, a look towards more creative lower cost marketing efforts (PR, cross-promotions and co-branding, social media) makes more sense than doing what they&#039;re used to doing only spending more to get results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with your premise but if you&#8217;re really talking about small business, spending more to not see an increase in sales may not be a viable option. For example, if a company is used to spending $10 per sale and suddenly you want them to spend $20 per sale that could wind up putting them under before they have the chance to realize the benefits of their increased market share in a recovered economy. If a company can afford to increase their CPA, great. If not, a look towards more creative lower cost marketing efforts (PR, cross-promotions and co-branding, social media) makes more sense than doing what they&#8217;re used to doing only spending more to get results.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie Englert</title>
		<link>http://www.smallbusinessbranding.com/913/why-you-should-up-marketing-in-a-down-market/comment-page-1/#comment-187646</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie Englert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 01:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. I like how you posed the question if you consider marketing an expense or an investment. Great way to get business owners focused on achieving results rather than debating dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. I like how you posed the question if you consider marketing an expense or an investment. Great way to get business owners focused on achieving results rather than debating dollars.</p>
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